Articles | Volume 44, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/angeo-44-715-2026
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What is the neutral wind in height-integrated ionospheric electrodynamics?
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AR by Spencer Hatch on behalf of the Authors (06 Jul 2026)
The paper presents a comprehensive discussion of how the neutral wind is and could be considered in height-integrated ionospheric electrodynamics. Rocket and radar measurements are applied to study the actual “effective neutral wind” and evaluate common proxies. The paper is a very interesting contribution to the field of ionospheric electrodynamics and addresses a relevant issue. It can be published with minor revisions. Please see some suggestions below:
1. Equation 1 and following:
I assume b is the unit vector in magnetic field direction, i.e. b=B/|B|? Please clarify.
2. Section 3.3 and Figure 3
The statistics applied here are somewhat unclear to me: What is the statistical meaning of Q3+1.5IQR? Also, just roughly estimating for the left box in Figure 3a, IQR seems to be ~200m/s (with Q3~225m/s and Q1~25m/s), but the upper horizontal line (Q3+1.5IQR) is at about 300m/s. This might be a misunderstanding on my part, but in general, I don’t see the need for too much statistical analysis on only 15 wind profiles, so just showing the median values and Q3 and Q1 should suffice.
Also, it seems in Figure 3b that u=0 has a slightly lower median error than the wind at the Pedersen peak. The difference is minor, but contradicts the statement in lines 16 and 17, which is very general in claiming to have found the best proxy (one might come up with other proxies than the four investigated here). Figure 3 suggests that the Pedersen peak wind could serve as an improved proxy for effective neutral wind compared to the commonly applied u=0 and u=u160.
3. Lines 223-225
This statement is somewhat confusing. From Lines 111-112, I understood that the Pedersen-weighted neutral wind is the most natural definition of the effective neutral wind, given Equation 11. I do not see the connection to Figure 3, where the Pedersen-weighted neutral wind is used as a baseline to compare different proxies.
4. Section 3.4 and associated discussion
It would be interesting to give an estimate of how large the third term of Equation 10 RHS is in comparison to the other two terms, e.g., for a constant electric field or shown as a plot over varying electric field strength. This would allow to assess the inequality in Equation 11 and how good the application of Pedersen-weighted neutral wind as the effective neutral wind is. Also, if I understand Equation 10 correctly, the mix term (second term RHS) also carries some of the difference caused by assuming U_P as the effective neutral wind? Therefore, why do you focus solely on the exclusively wind-dependent term?
Some estimate of how this affects the Joule heating estimate quantitatively would be appreciated, and I’d suggest stating this in the abstract instead of the sentence in lines 14-17, which seems a bit vague.