Second Review of “Revisiting Mirror Modes in the Plasma
Environment of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko” by
Fallau, Goetz, Simon Wedlund, Volwerk and Moeslinger
Referee #1
Referee second comment: I am dissatisfied with the responses of the authors in this section of the correspondence. I will give some further arguments below.
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Referee first comment. This is an interesting paper but it is unconvincing that it is correctly identifying solitary mirror mode waves. If one looks at Figure 1 and the identification of the mirror modes, the readership will ask what are all the other waves which have not been identified as mirror modes? They look pretty much the same as the events that you have identified. Is it just by chance that sometimes the angular changes fit their conditions that the
authors have set for mirror modes and sometimes they do not? I realize that the authors
are claiming that these other waves are evolutionary structures of mirror modes, but
there has not been any past observations/evidence of this. This is just pure speculation.
Maybe this is an entirely different wave mode, or possible this is a coupling of mirror
modes with another wave mode? Or could there be two instabilities occurring, say a
mirror mode instability and an ion cyclotron wave instability? The authors should
discuss this in some detail. Give balance to the paper so that the readership will not be
misled.
Authors first response– We thank the reviewer for their input and have made changes to address the comments. The changes are highlighted in the attached file. There seems to be some misunderstanding of the main points of the paper, so we have reformulated to hopefully
avoid any confusion. The core of the method that we use is well known and has been used many times before to identify mirror modes. Of course the choice of parameters influences the method
outcome, so we have either chosen values that other publications have used (for
compatibility) or explained why an adjustment was necessary. This results in a catalog of
mirror mode wave candidates that is the basis of a statistical study. This is an established
method of investigation. We have discussed in the text why some events that could be
mirror modes are not identified. Nowhere in the draft do we intend to claim that we
present evidence of mirror modes developing out of/into magnetic holes. We merely
point out their similarity and that there is a theory that they are related. We have
reformulated the text to make this clearer to the reader. No ion cyclotron waves have
been reported in the cometary environment of comet 67P and the aim of this paper is not
to search for them.
Second referee comment. The changes that you have made are insufficient. Every paper should be a stand alone work. Just because other papers have come up with similar conclusions doesn’t mean that the present work is correct. All works are possibly in error. As one example when there were many potential errors in the literature concerning magnetic holes, an editor of JGR asked for a review paper straightening out the differences between magnetic holes and mirror mode waves. The published paper is JGR, 116, A02103, 2011. Doi:10.1029/2010JA015913. It seems to me that the only difference between the previous magnetic hole issue and this paper is that you are selecting single event “mirror modes” among other structures. What I am asking for is for you to explain to the readership what you think these other structures are which are not mirror modes.
As originally suggested, please give your opinion (to the readership) your opinion of what
the other waves may or may not be. I do not believe you addressed this issue at all.
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Referees first comment. In light of this I suggest that the authors put in the word “possible” in the title before “Mirror Modes” and in line 3 of the abstract. Future work on this by other people might be able to resolve what is creating these perplexing waves.
First reply of authors– The method that was used in this paper has been used many times to identify mirror mode structures. Mirror modes have been reported at comets. While the interpretation of the generation of the waves is certainly difficult, it is not warranted to discount the characterisation of the identified events as only “possible” mirror mode waves. In Sect. 2
we emphasize which waves other than mirror modes could be detected by the original
B-field-only detection scheme and present several additions and ways of mitigating this
(B-n anticorrelation, wave-like morphology): all of those observational additions, paired
with theoretical and modelling results, are strongly compatible with the actual presence
of mirror modes. We therefore opt to retain the title as it is, but changed the abstract’s
3rd line to “mirror mode-like” to emphasize that, because the ion/electron temperature
information was impossible to derive with accuracy, the origin of the waves we see is
difficult to ascertain, as already stated at the end of Sect. 2.
Referee second comment. These structures that you are presenting as mirror modes are not like the continuous string of mirror modes that have been observed in planetary magnetosheaths and were discussed in 2011 JGR paper mentioned previously. Yes, mirror modes have previously been reported to occur in other places such as at comets and in interplanetary space. Those events were noted to be of continuous cycles of mirror mode structures.
I repeat, the word “possible” should be added to the title. I think this is a generous amendment.
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Referee first comment. In reading through the paper, it appears as if this is a reporting of the authors’ efforts in research and not a streamlined scientific paper. In the abstract, sentence line 8 -9, you mention a magnetic field only method of detecting mirror modes and later in the body of the text, you discard it for a magnetic field and plasma density method.
Authors first reply– The magnetic-field only method was used as the first step of the multi-step identification process. It was not discarded, but added to. We have clarified this in the text.
Referee first comment. It would be best if you delete this sentence in the abstract and in the body of the text and get to the main point of the results. In the sentence on lines 9-10, I think you should correctly state that the 565 events were detected by the standard technique of id entifying mirror mode events (anticorrelated magnetic fields and plasma densities)? This is not a
new idea and should be the starting point of your discussions.
Authors first reply. Previous studies just used the magnetic field only method to identify mirror modes in planetary or cometary environments. One of the realizations of this study is that this method is not enough to correctly identify mirror modes at comet 67P as stated in the
text. As we detail the selection method, we also reduce the number of events, for
repeatability and traceability we have added the number of events at each step.
Referee second comment. I disagree with this statement. The method to identify mirror mode structures was published in JGR, 87, A8, 6060-6072, 1982. It was pressure balance structures with little or no magnetic field deviations. The magnetic field alone technique was proposed as a shorter analytical method, which you now find does not work. You are going back to the original method except not even fulfilling all of the diagnostic techniques. Please give a correct and much shortened description of your criteria. For example you could say that the original 1982 technique was use but because you do not have pressure balance information you have
forgone that information? That basically covers your final analytical method. |