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https://doi.org/10.5194/angeo-44-263-2026
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Subauroral contamination in POES/Metop TED channels
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The authors have presented a work investigating the "cross-talk" (commonly referred to as "contamination" elsewhere in the literature) of the POES TED and MEPED instruments as part of the POES SEM-2 instrument suite. The authors provide qualitative evidence to support the conclusion that the TED instruments suffer from significant contamination, in the L<6 region of the radiation belts.
On the whole I do not have too many major issues with this paper. My biggest gripe concerns the inclusion of the MEPED instruments in the authors' investigations. As far as I can tell, none of the authors conclusions regarding the MEPED instrument are new or novel. Indeed, most of them can be reached by a careful examination of Yando et al. [2011], and follow-up works such as Whittaker et al. [2014] and Peck et al. [2015]. This is not to diminish the TED-related work, which I think has the potential to be a useful addition to the literature, however I think the MEPED instrument additions just distract from this and are unnecessary.
I will also note that the authors should take care to carefully read through the paper for spelling and grammar issues, of which there are many. Not enough to decrease the readability of the paper, but enough to be distracting.
The following are a list of relatively minor issues with the paper, in addition to those noted above:
1. Lns 80-81 - The MetOp program was not a successor to the POES constellation; POES was a NOAA initiative, MetOp was EUMetSat -- they're complimentary (indeed, MetOP-A was launched before NOAA-19).
2. Lns 83-84 - While it is true that, averaged over time, the POES satellites offer near-complete local time coverage, I think it is important to highlight the deficiencies in this; namely that there is a blind-spot around 12 MLT. Although not really too important for this paper, I think it is necessary to avoid misinformation regarding the coverage.
3. Lns 96-97 - This claim regarding the 0-deg telescope measuring trapped particles should be cited, for instance Fig 1. of Rodger et al [2010] (10.1029/2008JA014023).
4. The authors attempt to create differential flux channels from the E1-3 integral channels is not particularly useful. The complex response of the electron telescopes to both electrons and protons make this qualitative at best, particularly for the "E2-E3" channel. The authors note this later on, but related to my point above, I do not this that this is particularly novel.
5. Related to the above, it is not clear from the instrumentation section if the authors are using decontaminated MEPED electron flux data or not. Fig 5. of Yando et al. [2011] shows that the E1 and E2 channels are strongly contaminated by roughly >200-300 keV protons, and the E3 by > 400 keV protons. Comparison with the P7 proton channel, which measures >35 MeV protons, is useful for removing solar proton events and the SAA, but not more general proton contamination. It should be noted that, depending on the version of data used, the older .CDF file data was typically roughly corrected for proton contamination, but using pre-Yando methods (.BIN files, from which the CDF data was derived, were not corrected). The newer .nc fluxes are not corrected for proton contamination: specifically, on page 32 of the MEPED Telescope ATBD, it is stated:
"Other factors not considered here that may significantly affect
performance are the intercalibration of the satellites, the degradation of the
sensors, and cross species contamination. These additional factors are
discussed further in section 6.1 but accounting for these issues is beyond the
scope of the current processing level. Users should consider how these
limitations in the data accuracy might impact their use or interpretation of the
data."
If the authors _have_ corrected the electron data, for instance using Ethan Peck's algorithm, they should mention this. Otherwise, any results derived from MEPED are suspect.
6. The authors mention Figure 3 before Figure 2 -- these should most likely be swapped.
7. Figure 4 - in the top left panel, the authors have plotted MEPED 90-deg E3 -- surely this should be the 0-deg channel?
8. Figure 4 - I would request that the authors choose a more colourblind-friendly colour scheme for their plots. Varying shades of blue and red can be very difficult for people with different types of colourblindness to distinguish.
9. Lns 241, 245, etc. The authors quite often state that values are "significantly" different -- or instance, that the subauroral peak in MEPED 0-deg P1 and P2 is significantly smaller than in the TED protons. Unless the authors have statistical bases for these claims, they shouldn't use the term "significantly".
10. Lns 261-262 - The authors should be careful attributing any particular measurements from POES as strictly trapped. As can be seen in Figure 1 of Crack et al. [2025] (10.1029/2024JA033158), the vast majority of the time the POES 90 degree detectors are measuring at the very least the drift-loss cone, and often include the bounce-loss cone as well.
11. Ln 268-269 - while its true that geomagentic storms can result in decreases in flux, its not necessarily accurate to say definitively that this always occurs; as Reeves et al. [2003] noted, only roughly a quarter of storms resulted in decreases to radiation belt relativistic electron populations, while roughly half resulted in increases in fluxes.
12. Ln 277 - Saying that any electrons have "higher energy than ... E3" doesn't really make sense -- E3 is an integral channel, and measures all electrons in the >300 keV range. Similarly, Ethan's E4/P6 channel is not the same energy range as E3 -- typically the lower limit is considered to be 500-800 keV (it's a relatively smooth gradient, so its up to interpretation exactly where it starts).
13. Section 4.4 -- This entire section is essentially just a rehashing of Yando et al. [2011], and is misleading in some parts as well. For instance, the authors make the argument that subtracting, for instance, E2 from E1 gives you a 30-100 keV channel, but this is not strictly true, as E1 and E2 respond differently to contaminating protons. Without removing this contamination (an imprecise art at best), E2-E1 does not give you anything particularly useful. I would recommend removing this section entirely, as it does not add anything novel to the paper.
To conclude, I think that the authors work regarding the TED portion of the POES SEM-2 instrument suite is useful, and a welcome addition to the literature. I do not think their MEPED work is particularly novel, however, and would recommend rewriting the paper to remove it. Following this, and the addressing of the above points, I think this work should be publishable.